
Can we catch the Trees this week?
September 27, 2009 - 1:40pm
Way to go Team Watch! The top 10 high scores are 100% Watch right now. Awesome!
Now if we can only beat those darn Trees!!!
It seems that with everyone receiving 250 points -- even if they simply signed up and have never participated in a single puzzle -- that it will be mathematically impossible to beat the Watch this week.
They already have a huge 45,000 point lead over us right now which is more than 50% of our week's total points so far.
We would have to more than double every Watch point for the rest of the week to catch up. I don't see how that is mathematically possible given the much larger Watch contingent.
Any ideas?
September 27, 2009 - 1:52pm
#2
Yeah, the 250 flat to everyone really hurt us this week. We may be a smaller faction, but it appears we have the strongest players. I agree that we may be mathematically SOL this week, but hopefully we can get back into 2nd.
September 27, 2009 - 1:58pm
#3
@Igator:
I think the paper is wrong about the total numbers.
If you go to this URL:
http://picturetheimpossible.com/leaderboard after logging out you can see the bottom of the scoreboard -- which suggests that there are 1031 people signed up.
Also, as soon as the 250 points were awarded, I crunched some numbers but forget exactly what they were... dismissing points on Friday and Saturday which amounted to about 10,000 total points. I guesstimated about 420 Tree 320 Forge and 280 Watch.
Finally, 2000 players X 250 automatic points for the Saturday puzzle equals 500,000 total points -- way above the total points displayed on the board right now. S
o I'm not buying it. 1000 players is much more likely.
September 27, 2009 - 2:09pm
#4
@JJJ maybe they "finessed" the numbers a little for publicity sake... i know in some cases there are couples playing under the same ID, or families of 4 or 5 that could put them up near 2000... although that still seems like a stretch.
September 27, 2009 - 2:14pm
#5
They should give Watch bonus points for dominating the top 20 board
September 27, 2009 - 2:18pm
#6
other factions get together and help each other... just saying...
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September 27, 2009 - 2:45pm
#7
Here's a space delimited file of top 200 players and their scores and factions as of right now.
Maybe someone here can pull this into MS Excel and do some statistical analysis to show how awesome the Watch is?
order faction username points
1 WATCH derubel 4,480
2 WATCH thena444 4,480
3 WATCH lxg5810 4,480
4 WATCH G0bsm4ck3d 4,480
5 WATCH EmDeeEm 4,480
6 WATCH quintetta 4,480
7 WATCH JJJ 4,480
8 WATCH Dev 4,480
9 WATCH puddleofsick 4,480
10 WATCH AvonPaintball 4,480
11 WATCH Big Sam 4,480
12 TREE scrapchris 4,465
13 WATCH mapitgirl 4,440
14 WATCH igator210 4,430
15 WATCH ems7991 4,430
16 TREE bethyalamode 4,430
17 TREE fooey 4,430
18 TREE Scott 4,430
19 TREE knottypine 4,420
20 TREE firelilly 4,415
21 TREE jknapp 4,415
22 TREE aknapp 4,415
23 TREE Tazwalker 4,390
24 TREE minksterella 4,380
25 TREE jmink 4,380
26 FORGE colinchocolate 4,365
27 FORGE rsyzygy 4,355
28 TREE Ariel 4,340
29 TREE jimnsharyl 4,330
30 TREE firewood 4,315
31 FORGE shilfiell 4,300
32 TREE klesko86 4,290
33 TREE Coriander 4,280
34 TREE beautymama 4,265
35 TREE mobileminded 4,215
36 FORGE dtrabjohns 4,205
37 WATCH JaredLyon 4,205
38 FORGE Kris With A K 4,200
39 TREE WildRumpus 4,185
40 WATCH jtp1317 4,185
41 FORGE Horde McDonough 4,180
42 FORGE taralendra 4,165
43 WATCH rootie172 4,155
44 FORGE jpopick 4,150
45 TREE mikanmar 4,135
46 TREE mcandrews5 4,130
47 FORGE ecrabjohns 4,080
48 TREE Agathafan 4,070
49 TREE Sonia Tafoya 4,065
50 TREE michaelrhoda 4,030
51 TREE Dirt5298 4,030
52 TREE gypsyandme 4,015
53 WATCH Ariane 4,015
54 TREE theyus 4,015
55 WATCH Mayday 4,015
56 TREE Vickie P 4,015
57 WATCH missinglynk 4,000
58 TREE hfljazzguy 3,990
59 TREE cgg7002 3,915
60 WATCH Soolseem 3,890
61 WATCH MJ68 3,885
62 FORGE johnnysgirl 3,865
63 TREE elfsister01 3,860
64 TREE Paula and Alexandra 3,810
65 FORGE quietdeth2 3,790
66 WATCH Poinky 3,705
67 FORGE jfilion 3,650
68 FORGE cmchristina 3,645
69 FORGE mattandcassie 3,630
70 TREE tenorbri 3,630
71 TREE smp8330 3,610
72 WATCH MotherandSon 3,575
73 FORGE kvelyk 3,530
74 FORGE jackman 3,525
75 WATCH dccircuit 3,515
76 TREE wssmith 3,505
77 WATCH MangaAddict 3,500
78 FORGE hillrunner 3,470
79 TREE lmink 3,430
80 TREE Ginger09 3,425
81 TREE Dolly Finn 3,405
82 WATCH ebecca 3,315
83 TREE JoeJohnstonandFamily 3,265
84 WATCH Erac Laicos 3,265
85 WATCH Foster Family 3,190
86 FORGE boydj 3,030
87 FORGE Steinmiller 3,015
88 FORGE rboyd 3,015
89 TREE enderlefamily 2,980
90 FORGE saphir23 2,935
91 WATCH curlgirl 2,900
92 FORGE angelwings777mp 2,860
93 WATCH etletc 2,835
94 WATCH Aer 2,725
95 WATCH LucyLouisa 2,650
96 TREE jogle 2,615
97 TREE emiballet 2,610
98 FORGE Rochrach 2,605
99 WATCH Agelaius 2,565
100 TREE Farm Boy 2,535
101 FORGE sallyamycat 2,515
102 WATCH hitter891 2,505
103 TREE kaitlinbug 2,500
104 TREE flamingo 2,460
105 FORGE mpapaya 2,455
106 TREE teamficarra 2,425
107 WATCH davymich 2,400
108 TREE lpurvis 2,390
109 TREE ariellison 2,385
110 WATCH barbandkent 2,365
111 TREE katiejane62 2,360
112 TREE BurningAshes 2,345
113 TREE momz4 2,330
114 FORGE Kregan08 2,305
115 TREE jmoy8 2,275
116 TREE Finear 2,250
117 WATCH epd 2,245
118 FORGE Amandatt 2,245
119 WATCH ultimatefans 2,200
120 WATCH ltaksen 2,175
121 TREE jamisoncollette 2,165
122 TREE eddc112208 2,150
123 WATCH LJFYCC 2,145
124 TREE Grandpafrank 2,135
125 WATCH Kalick 2,105
126 FORGE urbangrandma 2,100
127 TREE Lucy 2,085
128 FORGE sloan53 2,085
129 TREE malaryush 2,085
130 WATCH LtPowers 2,080
131 FORGE Mikeyb68 2,080
132 FORGE danjess 2,075
133 TREE rweinstein831 2,060
134 WATCH baltimorefollower 2,040
135 TREE Lever3000 2,030
136 FORGE 37Glasgow 1,970
137 WATCH Kolchak 1,960
138 TREE team kensek 1,950
139 TREE wcup1994 1,935
140 TREE Tracylis19 1,935
141 FORGE TerraFoodlink 1,930
142 FORGE sueb 1,920
143 TREE talikan 1,890
144 TREE PeaceLvHppnss 1,890
145 FORGE dsucy 1,890
146 WATCH jparryhill 1,890
147 WATCH fishlein 1,875
148 FORGE whytphyre 1,850
149 WATCH aarich839 1,830
150 FORGE Binkey 1,780
151 FORGE fru 1,765
152 FORGE teddi 1,765
153 TREE Bergen38 1,760
154 FORGE apurvis 1,755
155 FORGE gsleader862 1,740
156 TREE Rizendragon 1,715
157 TREE judy dee 1,710
158 TREE cmcarpenter 1,700
159 TREE JL1230 1,690
160 FORGE Mike Adams 1,665
161 FORGE rlsuorsa 1,630
162 TREE mary_shomper 1,625
163 WATCH kensmithjr 1,620
164 TREE Nancy 1,620
165 TREE bloechl 1,580
166 WATCH megabumpp 1,560
167 FORGE bookarts 1,550
168 WATCH tadgeobrien 1,545
169 FORGE 2jcvic2 1,545
170 FORGE Drakfyre 1,540
171 TREE dc 1,540
172 TREE JPatt 1,540
173 FORGE emique 1,530
174 TREE cynpacia 1,500
175 TREE leo5943 1,495
176 TREE bdbphillips 1,495
177 WATCH kiracalico 1,460
178 WATCH geo585 1,455
179 TREE jd001h 1,450
180 FORGE cak55 1,440
181 WATCH Team Papaya 1,415
182 TREE Erbland 4th 301 1,410
183 FORGE walsey52 1,375
184 TREE Chanceman 1,360
185 FORGE Shaffer37 1,340
186 TREE Lord Titus 1,320
187 TREE KAT4280 1,315
188 WATCH fizz6kitty 1,310
189 TREE WebEckSpert 1,305
190 WATCH SpiralSky 1,305
191 TREE kmelton 1,295
192 WATCH momd 1,285
193 FORGE margart 1,265
194 FORGE socule 1,250
195 TREE hughesbrown 1,245
196 TREE RRappold 1,240
197 WATCH chefjack2887 1,220
198 TREE MaryAnnC66 1,220
199 FORGE zwitt 1,215
200 FORGE ashcondad 1,210
September 27, 2009 - 3:06pm
#8
Nearly 2,000 players is correct. The number you are seeing is the number who have confirmed through phone or Facebook.
September 27, 2009 - 3:09pm
#9
Avg points per player in top 200
Watch 3046
Tree 2864
Forge 2580
September 27, 2009 - 3:10pm
#10
@MotherandSon - Yeah, so far we haven't organized a formal help group, but I hope that wouldn't stop you from contacting any of us if you need help. I know I'm willing to share my what I know, either here on the forum or though email.
September 27, 2009 - 3:19pm
#11
we missed 1 of last weeks Sunday puzzles because we could wrap our head around it... :(
I try to help where I can but no one came to our aid :(
I posted on the forums the minute I figured out the new egg... only to have a Watch member say - oh yeah I already got that!! (not pointing fingers Dev ;p) ;)
we NEED to keep helping each other! :)
ALSO... of note... I contacted Wilson Park for some info... and was asked if I was part of that D&C thing...
lol
well back to figuring out the egg while I said for sun to do the scavenger hunt...
September 27, 2009 - 3:32pm
#12
@tbauer Ok that explains the number then, thanks, for correcting my assumption. Note to self: Don't assume.
Anyone know how to plot EmDeeEm's Avg points per player in top 200 in a chart versus normal distribution?
That's way above my skill set with statistics and MS Excel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution
I would imagine such a chart would show the Watch as the hardest workers in this game.
September 27, 2009 - 3:37pm
#13
Beyond my skill set as well..
but heres the other data i have if it helps:
Points in top 200
Watch 176660
Tree 252040
Forge 139345
Players in top 200
Watch 58
Tree 88
Forge 54
September 27, 2009 - 4:29pm
#14
Well, I can plot the points as a histogram for each faction... Here's my attempt: Points Distribution
Basically, that graph shows the number of people in each faction that have earned a certain number of points (the points are spread out in 200 point "bins"). I did this in excel and had it draw trendlines for the data, which smooths it out a bit and makes it look pretty :-)
So yeah, the Watch has the most people with the highest point totals, but the Trees are beating us at pretty much every other value :-(
September 27, 2009 - 4:39pm
#15
We're losing sight of the Forge because of the Trees. Looks like their recruitment drive was successful, and we're behind this week.
September 27, 2009 - 6:10pm
#16
@motherandson I've been helping everyone who messages me for help. My AIM sn for puzzle games is RiddlerDev .












The Watch seems to have the more hard core puzzle solvers, but I think our numbers are just to low. This mornings paper said that total player count is getting close to 2000. I think we'd need to recruit 500 players just to have a chance for the overall point count.