yet ANOTHER cipher from our friend ... (yes - new wednesday)

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here we go again

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Oh Maaaaaaaaaaaaan!

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Looks to be Vigenere cipher.

Lorum Ipsum is "fake" text used in showing off fonts and such. I found a demo of it, starting with "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur...", but it gets lost after that.

Anyway, that's what I've found so far.

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Lorem ipsum - Googled and I got...

It is a Latin text used as a dummy text to display a design for a layout. Remarkably enough, this same text has been used since the 1500's, when it first appeared in a specimen book of different font types. The text comes from Cicero, who wrote it in 45 B.C. It survived all the way into our age of computer technology...

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Found this, but only get gebberish when input text--assuming key is "Lorum Ipsom

http://sharkysoft.com/misc/vigenere/

completely wrong track?

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I've got the first two words. it is a vignere code with loremipsum as the key

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It's more than just those words...

I've got a key of:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipiscing elit sed

so far...

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...unfortunately there are so many versions of Lorem Ipsum out there it's hard to know which one is right...apart from trial and error.

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first sentence "you don't believe me?" unfortunately I have somewhere to be.I'll leave it to you guys good luck.

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second paragraph "Every single..."
I think :-)

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Have you finished the first paragraph yet?

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I have the whole first line -- "You don't believe me? Ten years ago I started"

Now I'm stuck. Not sure why it won't decode any further.

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I get stuck there too. can only get the first line of paragraphs
2nd para: Every single person I've spoken with
3rd para: Speculation? I lived through this

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I have a few more words than that... You don't believe me? Ten years ago I started researching this.

We just have to find the correct version of Lorem ipsum... grumble!

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Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipiscing elit sed hendrerit...

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Should we take note that the Watchmaker spelled it Lorum Ipsum ( U instead of E ) ?

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Jknapp -- I haven't been anle to find a version that goes that way. Mine goes "elit, sed do eiusmod tempor...". This one seems to show up the most often but is obviously not working for me. Where did you find this other version?

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Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Sed hendrerit

also the version that seems to be working so far spells "consectetur" while a lot of the versions spell it with a "eur" at the end

)I had "ante" in there at the end, but it doesn't change anything... still looking!

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no help from me :-(
I am getting zilch on this one.

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I've been finding them via Google/Bing search and using the partially decoded paragraphs to start getting the next word. I've got one more:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipiscing elit sed hendrerit suscipit...

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So are you just picking the latin words at random from Lorum ipsum texts to see what works?

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I'm just trying to search on the words I have that work and then trying anything I find with different words that follow what I already have. I'm stuck now though. :-(

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no luck that it is some how a substitution cipher as well?

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yeah, picking words at random is not going to make this go fast...

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I am still stuck on the spelling of Lorum and the hint that says "A reward" instead of "Your reward"...Look how you all have me thinking now?

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I've got...you don't believe me? ten years ago i started researching this. that gear symbol i've

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I found a spot in the 3rd letter that seems to correspond to the hint "the ____with ____ _____ adorned even the most innocent of papers..." The three words that fill the blanks have 4, 8 and 4 letters. Wonder if we need to just focus on them?

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One of the watchers has the code now...Aer. I just found in the recent achievements.

It says 'Mark of the watchmaker" ---Put the words toegether

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I think we've seen that one already.

No I rechecked and the Mark of the Suffragist had the same clue/hint for it. That's why it sounded familiar. I just saw a bunch of watch with the new achievement.

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jknapp - getting anywhere?

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This thing is only worth 75 points??!!?? Who's figuring out the point system for this game, anyways???

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This thing is only worth 75 points??!!?? Who's figuring out the point system for this game, anyways???

BTW, the text that we are aiming for it this in the third letter, 5th line down (I believe) -- "Kwi xeat ycfz tutzuivb ocrd ivblagx xlyn fcm fowm cecwuxrf dz hsdhrd "

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Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipiscing elit sed hendrerit suscipit semet tincidunt etiam sollicit udin...

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So the transcriptiuon for that third letter now is -- Speculation? I lived through this! I've been following this group for ten years, and what I could tell you is shocking. I saw...

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Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur adipiscing elit sed hendrerit suscipit semet tincidunt etiam sollicit udin era

...and I'm off to pick up the kids. I'm home alone with them tonight, so I won't be back on until 9 or so when they're both in bed. Good luck Trees!

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I wish I knew how jknapp found this version so I could help, but I am of no use here.

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I'd love to pretend the fact that I can't work on this tonight might affect the outcome, but you guys are so stinking smart! I'll check back late tonight and see how you guys solved it 10 minutes after I signed off. ;)

I'm going to miss being associated with such big brains when this game is over!

Will I run into any of you tonight at RIT?

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Do any of you have friends in the Watch? They seem to have the code worked out?

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The XXXX with XXXXXXXX XXXX adorned even the most innocent of papers.

Kwi xeat ycfz tutzuivb ocrd ivblagx xlyn fcm fowm cecwuxrf dz hsdhrd

Hint: Meeting minutes of last watchmaker..

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It has 2 words from a recent watchmaker achievement..

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I think I have the last 2 words from your hint but can't make out the first one. It isn't mark or eyes. Another hint please? BTW, the forge people are getting it now too...

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Cgg7002, thank you for the hint.

Gypsyandme, I think you may want to use your 4 letter word in the first position. Then, if what I am thinking is right, you can figure out the third position.

If someone figures out the key to the cipher, please provide info. I have been trying very hard to decipher all the documents and have done pretty well with everyone's help. Thanks :^)

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Apparently I don't have a clue then. Just can't come up with any words that would fit the sentence that would come out of the last watchmaker acheivement. Guess my brain is too fried...

Just spoke with ScrapChris off-line and our two half fried brains figured it out. The words have to do with a description of the sign or mark on the forms. Hope that hint helps...

BTW, I wasn't thinking of the right watchmaker acheivement when I was trying to come up with words that fit...

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Is the broken gears page the right place to be looking?

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No, that's the one I kept focusing on.

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OK, then the meeting minutes of last watchmaker hint doesn't help much then...

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It was a document that Watchmaker pointed you to. In these meeting minutes we learned about the hierarchy of the secret society and how many members were at the top. Hope that refreshes your memory (and it also gives you another hint)...

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I'm guessing the 8-letter word is the number of members, and I think I know one of the 4-letter words, but at this point my brain is shot and I really need to step away from the game for a while. I'll come back to it later, thanks for your help!

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Well when you come back -- take a good look at one of those pictures/symbols and think about what the number might refer to on it.

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drove back out to RIT to drop off the craft kits, drove all the way back home, thinking, thinking...but nothing is clicking in my brain for this one.
I assume I am missing something very obvious.

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I got it with gypsyandme's last hint, but it is frustrating to not be able to decipher the documents. jknapp found an initial string that worked, but aside from trial-and-erroring each subsequent word I don't know what to do. Beh. It can't be this hard!

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